Creating a Trey Ceiling


Reference Number: KB-00201
Last Modified: February 27, 2020

The information in this article applies to:

Chief Architect Premier or Chief Architect Interiors



QUESTION

How can I create a trey ceiling?

Office with a trey ceiling containing rope and recessed lighting


ANSWER

A trey ceiling (sometimes referred to as a tray ceiling) is a raised area in the middle of a room that takes advantage of the attic space above the room. It can be as simple as a vault that follows the roof line to a flat raised area or something more elegant that takes advantage of moldings to decorate the edges of the raised area. We will explain two methods to create trey ceilings in Chief Architect:


To create a trey ceiling using trey ceiling polylines

*Applies to Chief Architect X12 and newer program versions.

  1. Open  the plan you would like to create a trey ceiling in.


  2. Navigate to Build> Roof> Trey Ceiling Polyline  and with the tool selected, left-click and drag inside of the room you would like to create your trey ceiling in.

    Alternatively, you can click inside of a room to select it and select the Make Trey Ceiling in Room  edit tool.

    Creating a trey ceiling using the trey ceiling polyline tool


  3. Much like other polyline-based objects, each edge of the newly created ceiling plane can be modified.

    • The Break Line tool can be used to place break points and create new edges.

    • Fillet Lines can be used to create a corner with a radius.

    • Chamfer Lines allows you to create a straight corner bevel.

    • The Change Line/Arc tool can be used to convert straight lines to arcs.


  4. Once the shape of the trey ceiling plane is to your liking, select it using the Select Objects tool and click on the Open Object edit button.


  5. On the General panel of the Trey Ceiling Specification dialog that displays:

    Trey Ceiling Specification dialog where trey settings can be set

    • Adjust the Depth of the trey. By default, this is set to 12".

    • If the Make Trey Ceiling in Room  edit button is used, you will have a Width option which allows you to specify how far inside of the room you would like the trey to start at. By default, this is set to 24".

    • Check Recess Into Ceiling to build the outer ceiling at the room's specified ceiling height and raise the inner ceiling plane into the room's ceiling platform. When unchecked, the inner ceiling is positioned at the room's specified ceiling height and the outer ceiling is dropped.

    • Specify the Pitch of the trey's sides if desired. When a non-vertical value is specified, a sloped ceiling plane is created along each edge of the trey. Check the Vertical box to produce vertical sides with no side ceiling planes.

    • In Chief Architect Premier, you can also specify the Structure of the ceiling layers that make up the trey. Click Edit to modify the structure. Check Use Room Ceiling Material for Sides to apply the room's ceiling finish material to the sides of the trey. Check Use Room Ceiling Material for Top to apply the room's ceiling finish material to the top of the trey.


  6. On the Moldings panel, click the Add New button to add a molding profile to the trey ceiling.

    • Specify the Width, Height, and Offsets of the molding profile.

    Note: Moldings cannot be added to trey ceilings that have a non-vertical pitch specified.

  7. On the Rope Lights panel, click the Add New button to open the Rope Light Specification and specify your desired properties for rope lighting, then hit OK to return to the Trey Ceiling Specification dialog.

    • Specify any desired Offsets for the rope lighting.

    Note: Rope lights cannot be added to trey ceilings that have a non-vertical pitch specified.

  8. Make any other changes to trey ceiling polyline such as the Fill Style or Materials, then click OK to confirm the changes and close the dialog.


  9. Lastly, take a Camera view to see the results.

    Perspective Full Camera view of a trey ceiling

    Nested trey ceilings and coffered ceilings can also be created using trey ceiling polylines. To learn more, access your software's documentation by navigating to Help> Launch Help.


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Trey ceilings can also be created using the Platform Hole tool along with custom ceiling planes.


To create a trey ceiling using the platform hole tool

  1. Select Build> Floor> Hole in Ceiling Platform  and with the tool selected, left-click and drag inside of the room you would like to create your trey ceiling in.

    Hole in ceiling platform created in a room


  2. With the hole created, proceed to use edit tools such as Break Line , Fillet Two Lines , Chamfer Two Lines , or Change Line/Arc  to shape the platform hole as needed.


  3. Next, we will create the sides of the trey ceiling. To do this, click on the hole to select it, click the Copy/Paste  edit button, then click in an empty area of the floor plan to place a copy of the platform hole polyline at that location.

    In this example, the copy was placed below the main structure.

    Copy of ceiling hole created outside of the room

    You may receive a warning that "A floor or ceiling platform hole polyline is placed where the platform height changes, or where no platform exists. Move the hole so it's completely contained within a single platform." If so, click OK.


  4. Next, use the Select Objects  tool to click on the copy of the platform hole polyline to select it, then click the Convert to Plain Polyline  edit button.


  5. With the polyline still selected, click the Convert Polyline  edit tool and in the Convert Polyline dialog box that displays, select Molding Polyline, then click OK.

    Convert Polyline dialog with the Molding Polyline option selected


  6. In the Molding Polyline Specification dialog that displays next:

    • On the General panel, specify the Height of the molding polyline.

      General panel of the Molding Polyline Specification dialog

      The height should be set to be the same value as the height of the room minus the ceiling finish material. In cases where a rooms height is set to be 109 1/8", the height of the molding polyline should be set to 108 1/2" to account for the 5/8" of ceiling drywall.

    • On the Moldings panel, click the Add New button and browse the Select Library Object dialog to select a molding profile.

      Moldings panel of the Molding Polyline Specification dialog

      • Profiles can be found by navigating to Chief Architect Core Catalogs> Architectural> Moldings, Profiles, Extrusions.

      • Specify the Height and Width of the Molding Profile.

        In this example, the Retain Aspect Ratio box was checked, and the Height was changed to 12" as that is going to be the depth of the trey once it is complete.

      • Specify any Offsets and ensure that the Extrude Inside Polyline box is checked.

    • Click OK to close the dialog box and apply your specifications to the molding polyline.


  7. Click on the molding polyline to select it and use the Move  edit handle to move the polyline into the same location as the platform hole inside the room.

    Molding polyline has been moved to be in the center of the room

    The platform hole and molding polyline should now be at the same location.


  8. Select Build> Roof> Ceiling Plane  from the menu.

    • Creating a ceiling plane is similar to manually creating a roof plane: click and drag to create the ceiling plane baseline, then release the mouse button;

    • Then drag and click once to establish the location of the ceiling plane ridge.

    • The ceiling plane displays with dashed pink lines and was drawn larger than the platform hole.

      Ceiling plane created in the room


  9. Select the newly created ceiling plane, click the Open Object  edit button to open the Ceiling Plane Specification, and on the General panel:

    General panel of the Ceiling Plane Specification dialog

    • Set the pitch to 0 to create a flat ceiling.

    • Click the Lock radio button next to Pitch (in 12) to lock it.

    • Raise the height of either the Ridge Height or Bottom Height.

      In this example, the upper ceiling plane is 12 inches above the lower ceiling plane, so the value specified is 121 1/8".


  10. On the Structure panel of the same Ceiling Plane Specification dialog, uncheck Use Room Ceiling Finish, then hit OK to confirm the changes.

    In Chief Architect Interiors, this checkbox is located on the General panel.


  11. Use the ceiling plane's edit handles to reshape the ceiling so that it is the same shape as the platform hole.

    Ceiling plane in the same location as the molding polyline and ceiling hole

    The platform hole, the molding polyline, and the custom ceiling plane should now all be in the same location.


  12. Finally, create a Camera view to see the results in 3D.

    Perspective Full Camera view of a trey ceiling